And every time he ever comes to Utah again.
This is an issue that comes up again and again. Other fans don't get it and call the boos "classless". Simmons has speculated the boos will give bad karma to the Jazz forever.
The common refrain is this: "How can you boo a guy who left because his daughter had cancer. And besides, leaving actually left the Jazz in better shape, financially. And it let the team try to find a real SG, instead of using a converted PG shooting 38%. The Jazz were better off with him only playing one year."
Ah, you silly fools. You are attempting logic.
In matters of love and fandom, logic only goes so far. In this case, we're dealing with emotions, with the hurt of being rejected, the perception that a magical night, a magical ovation for a sub-par player meant nothing to him, that he really wanted to get away from us the whole time, and that he was ultimately willing to use his daughter's illness as a manipulative ploy.
When you percieve things this way ... well, emotions will win out every time.
Read on to understand. You may not agree with it. I'm not sure I agree with it. I wish the boos would stop. But I understand where they come from and why they will continue. And I'm hoping I can help everyone at least understand.

Let's imagine a little story together.
You are single guy. You're successful professionally, likable personally, and have some unique characteristics that make you an all-around great dude. But you just can't get past a reputation as a total dork and doofus. It's been haunting you since Jr. high and has never gone away. When you tried to flirt, girls ignored you and turned away. You got at laughed when you mustered the courage to ask someone out to prom. You've been stood up a dozen times.
For the most part, you're okay with it all. As mentioned before, by every other metric you're a successful, happy person. You've come to terms with your dorky reputation, and live a good life despite it all. You've found people to give you a chance despite the reputation, and have had some good relationships.
But the reputation still bugs you if it comes up.
One day you hear that a certain gal has broken up with her boyfriend. She's not necessarily the most gorgeous gal to ever walk the earth, but you've known her a long time. She seems very stable, down-to-earth, and still attractive enough. You've always had a crush on her, and though she's not the kind of girlfriend a 16-year-old brags about, she's the kind that a 28-year-old is happy to have.
And she's been dating a total jerk since high school. Not just any jerk, but the popular dude who tormented you daily in the worst of the worst days of Jr. high, a dude you silently stewed over every time he was voted class president. A dude who got all the breaks, who could get all the girls, who could do anything just because his daddy was rich. And he flaunted it around, bragged about it, and spent most of his life being a total dick because of it. Oh, and he lives in L.A.
Well, this girl breaks up with him. After a while, a friend sets you up with her. You're excited. She could be exactly what you need in your life right now. And you get stood up. You get set up again. Stood up. And then again, you get stood up. Finally, on the fourth try, she shows up. She insists stuff came up, that she was excited to go out with you, but you know your reputation and you kind of wonder.
Well, the first date goes okay, and you continue going out. It goes pretty well. It's not perfect, it turns out she's probably not the ideal mate forever. But you have good times together, and you genuinely enjoy that she's your girlfriend. She seems to like being with you.
Then you go on a trip together. It's one of the greatest times of your life. Seems to be for her too. You think: "She may not be the right girl to spend forever with, but man I'd be crazy to not want to be with her right now."
A couple weeks later, she asks to break up with you. She says her sister's sick in New York, and as much as she enjoys being with you, she needs to be there to help out. You say, okay. You're kind of bummed, but you also remember she wasn't right for you forever. So you agree to go separate ways amiably.
Within two days you hear she's back with her old boyfriend, the rich dick, riding in his convertible Ferraris, sporting new sunglasses to shield herself from the Southern California sun.
She tells you: "Oh, I didn't mean I was going to live in New York, just that I needed to be available. And it's cheaper to fly to New York from L.A., so you know ..."
* * *
That's the story of Derek Fisher and the Utah Jazz.
We have the bad rep. We have the history of Derek "You go live in Utah" Harper. Of Roni Seikaly. We know we don't get the sexy free agents.
But we had Sloan, Stockton, and Malone. Later we had Deron and AK. Right now we have a young team playing games the right way, a team with a pretty good future. We have great ownership. And those of us in Utah know we really do live in a great place (I can't imagine wanting to live in a place like New York or Boston). When players give us a shot, they almost always end up happy they came.
So the reputation kind of bugs us fans. We are, perhaps, over-sensitive to it.
When the Jazz traded for Derek Fisher, he disappeared for a week. There was no word from him, no reaction to the trade, he just disappeared. All we could think about was our reputation. Finally he showed up after a week, the deadline for the physical to complete the trade. He insisted he was fine, that he wasn't mad to be traded.
So he played for us. He wasn't perfect (a starting SG who shot 38% from the field—and people say CJ's inconsistent). He certainly wasn't the long-term SG solution. But he contributed and helped that young team mature, get better. And it was a good year.
Then there was the magical playoff run, with the magical Derek Fisher game. It should have been a classic. It should have been a game that we still talk about. It should have been just a notch below '97 Houston Game 6. At the time, I thought it was one of the greatest moments in Jazz History—for the fans to give the standing O when Fisher walked in, for the miracle of going to OT, for Fisher to hit the dagger 3.
Two months later Fisher asked to be released from the Jazz so he could be closer to his daughter's doctor in New York. One week later he signed with the Lakers. He said it was because the doctors in L.A. would be good for the checkups after the major treatments in NY were over.
And suddenly all we could remember was that Fisher didn't show up for a week after the trade to Utah and how we thought he didn't want to be here anyway. And how convenient that he got resigned to chase championships with the Lakers, the team we're sure he always wanted to play for anyway. The team that gets all the players, all the breaks. Those cheers in the Derek Fisher game meant nothing to him, it appeared. We were relegated to rejected dork once again.
And if he did use his daughter's illness to get out of Utah and back on the Lakers, if it was nothing more than a manipulative stunt, what a prick. (Not if the illness was a stunt, but citing it as the reason to leave was a stunt).
* * *
For the record, I don't think Fisher lied when he was released from the Jazz. I don't think he had already lined up a gig with the Lakers. I believe the cancer docs in SLC (who between the Huntsman Institute, the U, and Primary Children's are some of the best in the world) were a bit too real in their assessment, and he went searching around for a miracle cure outside the lines. And that docs willing to offer him that miracle cure were not everywhere, and perhaps he found some who could treat his daughter more to his liking in L.A.
But reality doesn't matter in this case. My opinion doesn't matter.
What matters is how the majority of fans felt and still feel:
After years of being the place nobody wants to come—he joined the list of players who thought they were too good for us. That we cheered because he was a good citizen and leader for the team—despite some obvious flaws. That we gave the world chills with our cheers during the Derek Fisher game—all for him. And that he then told those fans that it meant nothing to him as he used his daughter's illness to manipulate his way out of Utah and back to the Lakers.
That's the perception.
No, the jilted lover never forgives. The jilted fan never cheers.
Derek Fisher will hear boos in Salt Lake City for the rest of his life.
3 recs | 21 comments
...I'll keep booing!
I’ll be one of them that will keep booing. Last I checked, LA is further away from NY than Utah is.
CJ Haws - January 11, 2012
Maybe because my parents work for hosiptals
I can accept that finding a doctor for the follow-ups is just as important as the one with the initial treatments.
But anyone who can’t see the whole thing is sketchy is being silly.
Yucca Man - January 11, 2012
Chuck said it...
Charles Barkley even commented at the time saying, why not New York or Seattle, they have great doctors.
That moment made me love chuck. He spoke the truth bluntly.
rymoss - January 11, 2012
yeah the part that gets me
is that we have one of the best children hospitals in the world. I know people have been flown from california to utah for medical care. That is what irks me
Evans Almighty - January 11, 2012
That's a fallacy
Just because SLC has a great Children’s hospital doesn’t mean it has the best particular treatment for his daughter.
P-Will - January 11, 2012
well we will never know all we know is that he wanted to go to la
Evans Almighty - January 11, 2012
I think the Derek Fisher haters are way out of line
1. He believed that LA doctors would provide superior treatment than Utah doctors. So be it. I don’t care if he is right or wrong about whether Utah or LA has the better doctors—that was simply his belief. If had to guess, I would bet LA has the better doctors for his daughter’s particular needs. If my daughter was had a similar condition, you can bet your ass I would pick and go to wherever I thought the best treatment was. I don’t care that he said he was going to NY initially. He may have reassessed and believed LA was the best place for his family.
2. He left for an LA team was awful. To boot, Kobe was demanding a trade.
3. He took a significant pay cut.
4. Finally, do you really think someone who flew to Utah for a playoff game after attending his daughter’s treatment was really looking to screw the Jazz? He could have took leave for the entire playoffs and been perfectly justified in my book. Instead, he choose to fly back and play his heart out for Utah. Yet, many fans believe this is the same guy who used his daughter’s illness in order to go play for a shitty Lakers team.
The evidence just isn’t there to make such a bold accusation. Let it go.
P-Will - January 11, 2012
Agree Completely!
Daniel Smith - January 11, 2012
agree..."let it go"
Keep booing Fisher while Kobe is dropping 40 on the Jazz at ESA
EcERyda69 - January 11, 2012 via mobile
I wouldn't classify myself as a 'Derek Fisher hater.'
But it is all just conjecture and opinion at this point. Just for the sake of the argument, here goes.
2. That Lakers team (basically like all Lakers teams throughout NBA history) was one free agent signing, or trade away from title contention. . . Look at what happened. It is the Lakers, that’s what made it so bad.
3. He made plenty of money up until that point of his career, and he obviously is a smart dude with his money, who could take a pay cut, for one year. I am pretty sure he only had one more year on that contract with the Jazz.
4. I don’t think it was about screwing the Jazz. And I don’t think anyone thinks he was trying to screw the Jazz. I remember when he signed with the Lakers. And how excited he was acting to be playing for the Lakers and with Kobe again. In those moments when he was all smiles with his Lakers buddies it was hard for me to remember that it was supposed to all be about his daughter. It seemed pretty clear to me that he definitely wanted to be playing for the Lakers over the Jazz, especially right after they signed him. No one should like the way that feels.
hamfist - January 11, 2012
2. Hindsight is 20-20. Nobody knew that the Lakers were going to fleece the Grizzles and acquire Gasol. He signed with a team that had failed to make the playoffs and whose superstar was currently demanding a trade.
3. The point is that he took a paycut. Just another piece of evidence that tilts the balance in favor of finding him not to be an evil mastermind.
4. What do you expect him to say/do after signs with the Lakers? He is not going to say: “Dear Laker fans, I really don’t want to be here, but I only came for medical treatment for my daughter” That’s not realistic. He’s going to march to the company tune.
P-Will - January 11, 2012
2. It’s what the Lakers do. It is what they always do. We didn’t know they would land Gasol, but if you really think the Lakers won’t land another free agent/lopsided trade to become contenders again in the next couple of years, you are wrong.
3. Basketball players take pay cuts all the time. Lebron, Wade, and Bosh took a pay cut to play in Miami. Malone took a pay cut to play in LA. It is what they do, to play where they want.
4. I expected him to be super concerned over his daughter, and it to be about her, not his new team.
hamfist - January 11, 2012
I personally have never booed Derek Fisher and won't.
And I wish people wouldn’t boo him so fervently. It brings attention to the wrong things. That said, I totally understand where they come from. That playoff game was magical. It was a great moment. Had Fisher went to ANY other team, (I don’t know like the Clippers) he would be cheered every time he stepped foot in Utah. It is part of being a fan of a small market team that makes it kinda like being stabbed in the heart when he picked the Lakers. It is totally irrational, but not something I can change. I lost respect and dislike Fisher after that. Every time I see him on TV or read his name, my thoughts are negative. It is involuntary.
hamfist - January 11, 2012
Total embarrasment to all Utahns
As a Utahn, the ongoing booing of Derek Fisher has got to be one of the most embarrassing things about my beloved home state. It makes us look like a bunch of adolescent, provincial nits. We’re like the crazy, psychotic ex-girlfriend who is so jilted that we just can’t move on and continue to freak out every time we see our ex. Grow up, Jazz fans.
VegasEsq - January 11, 2012
I'll keep disliking him
Not booing, just dislike. We have one of the top eye centers in The Hunstman Cancer Institute, she would’ve been taken care of there. Plus it also hurts to see that he signed with LA 48 hours after we let him go.
KaBar6 - January 11, 2012 via iPhone app
Just let it go.... Please!!!!
If I remember right, he wasn’t too happy getting traded here from Golden State. But he still gave it his all. He helped us get to our first and only Conference Finals since the Finals days. He gave one of the most tear jerking performances in playoff history flying in late to the game and playing a significant role in the win without even taking a single warm-up jump shot! His daughter had eye cancer. As a father, he had every right to go where he thought would be best for his daughter’s treatment. He chose to go to LA. So be it. Would I rather have had him sign with the Clippers instead of the much hated Lakers? Of course. But come on, it was 5 years ago. Let it go!
footeperu - January 11, 2012
I don't boo Fisher when the Lakers come to town.
But that doesn’t mean that I cheer for him, either.
DWest - January 11, 2012
I edited it (w/o telling you)
to correct the spelling of Karma. It’s understandable, my alphabet has more letters than the one english uses. as a result, spelling errors are bound to occur . . .
AllThatJazzBasketball - January 11, 2012
No respect for that dude at all....
Whats funny is that some of my boys are lakers fans and they boo him all the time!
LoWBlok - January 11, 2012
As a Jazz fan in So Cal, I have a bit of a different take
Every time the Lakers play in Utah, there is an article in the LA times about Derek Fisher getting booed. The Lakers feel that Derek Fisher left to take care of his daughter, which is something all Utahn’s would do. Being a family place and all. They also feel that their Doctors were superior to the doctors in Utah (something I personally don’t believe). They also argue that D-Fish took a pay cut so he could take care of his daughter. Hence, they feel Jazz fans are classless, hippocritical and can’t let it go.
What they are missing are:
1) Fisher came to Larry Miller asking to be released from his contract because he couldn’t think about playing basketball right now and needed to take care of his daughter. Larry Miller let him leave. This is something that Jerry Buss never would have done.
2) Derek Fisher and or Larry Miller should have said, “take as much time as you need and re-join the team when you are able”
3) Instead of taking his time to get his daughter treated and taken care of, he signs a new deal with the Lakers just ONE week later. This isn’t what he told Larry Miller.
4) Jazz fans would have been ok with it if it was ANY other team than the Lakers. Why not the Ciippers?
The whole thing just smelled Derek Fishy
socaljazzfan - January 11, 2012
That's pretty much why I feel jilted about it
Dyl - January 12, 2012
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